@toenail_soup @SeanOMuireagain @expressiveegg @medialens @darkmtn @quotes_chomsky @caitoz @Jonathan_K_Cook it has been my experience that “anti-civ” guys who reject farming 1. first try to deny it then when you pin them down, 2a. admit it, and say its the only way (perhaps suggesting it can be done in a long-term fashion), or 2b. say “well it’s going to happen anyway”