@Timlagor @Of_The_Root @ClimateBen I know, he was running for “a new type of politics” where people would be nice to each other, & discuss issues instead of personalities. The entire political class screamed “fuck off! I don’t want to talk about fucking issues!” and sabotaged & insulted him 24/7 but he held to it.

@SkyStapley @iainmunro10 do you ever once hear anyone say, “when I was a student, I was heavily involved in the anti-terraforming movement but now I realise we went too far”? – or “the engineering workers’ union on colony X is on strike again so we’ll have to wait for it to be resolved to talk to them”?

@SkyStapley @iainmunro10 I mean 600-odd episodes and no one ever mentions a political division that isn’t racial. No social movements. No profound philosophical cleavages that are resolved through any kind of democratic process.

@SkyStapley @iainmunro10 again, they make that claim at some point when they pretty much have to but then go on to act as if it weren’t true. Did you once see anyone so much as discuss an election, referendum, parliamentary manoeuvre, political party, policy debate, untying you might see in a democracy?

The financialized version of capitalism we know today is more a political beast in the service of an elite than an efficient economic system.” (Apparently I said that.) https://t.co/yjgtUTbrYR

RT @Of_The_Root: @ClimateBen @davidgraeber “attempts to create false scandals, and a campaign of sustained psychological warfare directed a…

RT @Of_The_Root: @ClimateBen The Labor Party threw the election to BoJo. @davidgraeber: “Corbyn was declared “unelectable.” In order to dem…

@kevinhirn parents, teachers, mentors, family members, perhaps a smattering of intellectual or political heroes

@Prolapsarian No in his case, he was trying for all those years to impress me. But it didn’t work because I only found he even existed yesterday.

it’s kind of disorienting when you realise that most of the people you’d most wanted to impress in your life are already dead.

@underscoremarx @iainmunro10 that’s not “just like now.” People, even in the military, let alone NASA, talk about national politics, political issues, politicians, all the time.

@underscoremarx @iainmunro10 we’re talking over 600 episodes & somehow no one ever once mentions a party affiliation? Or ok, they’re beyond parties. No one ever assesses an office-holder, says “I didn’t vote for that guy”? Discusses a pol difference & how it is resolved through some democratic mechanism?

@underscoremarx @iainmunro10 actually I think once they had to address the issue & they couldn’t very well say it wasn’t a democracy, but look at the show. Ok, the characters are in the military sure. But does anyone even once mention an election, vote, party, or public opinion survey?

RT @davidgraeber: @ngon1daai6wai6 Yes Star Trek is also a bunch of Cold War Americans saying “well if WE did Communism, we’d do it way bett…

@H_Y_L @iainmunro10 Def. Cook was attempting to be a peaceful explorer and not a conqueror – but in the end he killed a lot of people

@ngon1daai6wai6 Yes Star Trek is also a bunch of Cold War Americans saying “well if WE did Communism, we’d do it way better than the Russkies.”

@leemountste @AbiWilks Once again, an example of when anything like this has happened in the past might be helpful?

So I was watching Star Trek the other day & it occurred to me: in a way it’s the anti-The Office. It’s a giant floating office building in outer space w/ the same chains of command where everyone has the least bullshit jobs conceivable.

@leemountste @AbiWilks Right like they did in … in … in …? Well I guess the US or Australia might be examples of illegal immigrants taking over & massacring the existing population. But usually you have to conquer them first to do that

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