@sleafordmods @AliceWasWearing very gracious of you not to mention names but now you know as a result I’m going to have to turn to google to try to figure out who it was! Well, another excuse to procrastinate on writing …

@lennyleia99 @NouriPen @leftyjew so if you want to know the actual moral reasoning behind the tweet that was it – a bit consequentialist, admittedly.

@lennyleia99 @NouriPen @leftyjew this might possibly help prevent a murder, even if of a despicable person, and more importantly, allow the names & actions of culprits to be revealed publicly, which is usually very important for the survivors

@lennyleia99 @NouriPen @leftyjew the odd thing is… ok, speaking just in a practical fashion, if the aim is justice, everyone making cynical jokes about her immanent “suicide” might make it a tiny tiny bit more difficult for whoever might otherwise be so inclined to actually arrange it.

@lennyleia99 @NouriPen @leftyjew oh sorry if I was mistaken. For what it’s worth I suspect whoever made the joke is pretty angry too.

@paniq Appealing to reality. I should avoid stating facts if stating those facts might be likely to invoke am emotional response?

@welshbooky well you know I didn’t actually say it was funny. I carefully avoided saying that. I did think the process of my first thinking “my god that’s completely offensive!” then having to realise “well, ok, maybe not quite as completely offensive as I thought” was slightly funny.

@NouriPen @lennyleia99 @leftyjew I’m guessing some people are just so angry on behalf of the survivors that they need to feel there’s something they can on their behalf, & thus convince themselves attacking someone who in fact feels just as angry about it, but expresses it differently, will somehow benefit them

@nickmirzoeff yes like you I’m against the very existence of the prison system but if there’s anyone deserves to be in it…

@lousy_punk @paniq I honestly can’t see how that wasn’t obvious but yes – thanks for pointing it out

@paniq we’re talking about a bunch of people so rich & powerful they think they can openly rape children with impunity, & got away with actually doing so for years. So yeah. I think people who know that assume the law is broken. You don’t?

@leftyjew @lennyleia99 We’d all love to see her put on trial and spill the beans. Obviously. I assume the person making the joke was expressing cynical resignation.

@paniq obviously we’d all LOVE to see due process in her case. I assume the person who made the joke would too. They were expressing cynical resignation.

@dannywyo yes that’s because it’s not a book, it’s a twitter thread. Even despite that you have ignored words like “most” and pretended I’d written “all” which pretty much automatically disqualifies you as a legitimate critic

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@rowyourbot there are many strains of Christianity, certainly. I was using “puritanism” as a very broad term for one of those strains, which has really been in there from the start.

@Soeren_Brandes an argument could be developed but the Gilded Age was after abolition had been achieved; also it was the heyday of anarchist labour struggle.

@katzjudith week racism is systemic, but I was suggesting if you see that system as exterior, rather than as a corruption of your soul, you can actually address it.

@PatrikAHagman yes I was using “puritanism” as short-handed for a particularly American form of Christianity, though variations on that attitude can be traced all the way back to the start

@JanneRantala10 @fake__monkey yes, it would be quite interesting to make the comparison. It is clear that self-conscious movements in the name of “equality” – that is, the idea that people should be, in certain crucial respects, the same, or treated in the same way – do appear in any number of times & places.

@fake__monkey @JanneRantala10 Fwiw, most Muslims I know object to phrases like “Medieval Islam” and think the term “Medieval” should be confined to Europe

@DogfoxStudios @girlziplocked the resulting tendency to prioritise judgments on internal moral states for political analysis seems to have taken hold in the US much more strongly than anywhere else, & it’s hard to see where else this would be coming from. I’m open to suggestions!

@DogfoxStudios @girlziplocked my main point was puritan sensibilities in that very broadest sense, the spirit of competition to establish one is the most aware of one’s state of inherent sinfulness … this is one strain existing in Christianity from very early on, but only one