@Curious_Chak and here I was thinking Brexit was the way they were going to dislocate the blame for the economic crash caused by austerity onto the voters

@nadinebh_ “take care for each other” ? but that would be too communistic. I mean you’re not wrong, but I think the feeling underlying the critical reaction is them desperately trying to come up with a way to phrase that thought that evokes rightwing associations not leftwing ones

@SamuraiElf you can’t really see them under the robe. Maybe they’re vintage Jordache or something.

@paniq apparently not for them. They are determined to enact policies that were almost certain to create economic shock & possible food shortages even before the pandemic & inevitable depression & they show no signs of wavering from that determination.

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@djhanson_87 @geofffhughes thanks – I don’t know really what the author was thinking, I just remember African friends would always mention Lord of the Flies as the most salient memory of the kind of weird stuff they were forced to read in High School.

@geofffhughes no, the book was assigned to boarding school students throughout the British Empire, basically, to teach them why imperial rule was necessary, as human nature is such that even their masters would descend into savagery if the larger structure of power was not maintained

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@patj86 @davidwengrow which is fine, I’m not sure I buy it either; anyway I’m neither a mathematician or a builder, so I don’t have the means to judge, but I don’t understand the need to misrepresent his arguments.

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@patj86 @davidwengrow Does he “fail to account” for the possibility of coincidence? Of course not. His entire piece is explicitly making a case why coincidence is unlikely. He says so all the time. So your statement is simply untrue. You’re just saying “well I don’t know but I don’t buy it”

@patj86 @davidwengrow you claim he “fails to account” for alternative interpretations: which “alternatives” turn out to be 1. coincidence, or 2. cherrypicking. Again, this is dishonest rhetoric. The second is absurd, like saying “he fails to notice he’s lying.” So let’s discount that.

@patj86 @davidwengrow what he says is that the units of measure he presumes were “widespread” – obviously so if they appear in Peru, Mexico, and Louisiana – and endured in “some” areas down to the time of Columbus. He also argues the sites were planned on a total scheme.

@patj86 @davidwengrow actually I did read it. He does not, in fact, make the claim you attribute to him. I have no particular dog in this race, and i lack expertise, but I can see an obvious straw man when I see one.

@DunsmoreMarnie @scottsgonetopot @davidwengrow Broadway in NYC actually existed before the settlers showed up – it led all the way to Albany. It started in what’s now Astor place, which was the field where the various nations who lived in Manhattan played lacrosse.

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@patj86 @davidwengrow does he actually claim that all Archaic monuments everywhere in the Americas use the same measurements?

@patj86 @davidwengrow instead saying “I assume these other sites that don’t conform exist & he was intentionally ignoring them for dishonest reasons but I can’t be bothered to point to any of them myself” seems a rather odd reaction

@patj86 @davidwengrow well there’s the thing: I thought the way science was supposed to work, if you think someone’s hypothesis is wrong, you falsify it. i’d have thought that would be super easy in a case like this. Find a couple sites which clearly don’t conform.

@scottsgonetopot @davidwengrow @newapollo__ @arclight music is basically a form of repetition

@newapollo__ @davidwengrow @arclight it works for why counting systems tend to work in 10s (fingers), 12s (fingers & palms), or 20s (fingers and toes: Mayas for instance tended to sit cross-legged), but arms and legs tend to come in radically different sizes

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@simon_r_katz Actually it Corbyn merely voting against Blair would justify Blairites actively trying to destroy their own party, then Blairites trying to destroy their own party would justify dropping a nuclear bomb or something. These things are not proportional

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@Peterhardwick17 @wales_steve Your attempt to rewrite history & pretend that majority wasn’t simply recognizing that those people couldn’t be removed & would continue to sabotage their party until they got their way is disgusting

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@Peterhardwick17 @wales_steve Okay two inches from blocking you as I’m so tired of the militant stupidity. No. From the moment Corbyn was elected a very large faction of Blairites made it clear they’d never accept a leftist & would do whatever it took including undermining their own party to remove him

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@nicransome I understand your feelings. I guess the question is where you put your energies. Me, I was drawn into electoral politics because there was a unique conjuncture where people who actually supported social movements had a crack at power. Now I’m back to “a pox on both your houses”

@hammasinpitta I’d agree to most of that, except they tried remain & reform & it was overwhelmingly rejected by the their core constituents.

@adereynolds yeah it’ll be Blair all over again, all the worst changes of the last 20 years will become permanent and unalterable – well, till we all drown in floods and plagues and tempests because the idiots won’t do anything radical about anything even an immanent threat to life itself

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@JillGore8 @simon_r_katz @Valerie3Ward @kronstadtkool You are no longer in a position not to lecture people not to behave JG ave like Streetkng, McNicol, Watson etc. Youve proved that’s the only way to get anywhere. So shit up and deal with the consequences

@JillGore8 @simon_r_katz @Valerie3Ward @kronstadtkool No sorry you support someone who’s only in power because they’re allies said “I don’t care if members ejected Corbyn I’ll undermine my own party for years if necessary to get rid of him” then you have validated such behavior

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